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Why are many of the posts anti Semitic on this Veterans List

Postby msdking » Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:24 pm

Could it be that some on this lists the following describe to a T???

The Jews as Viewed by Others!

"Some people like the Jews, and some do not. But no thoughtful man can deny the fact that they are, beyond any question, the most formidable and the most remarkable race which has appeared in the world."

• Winston Churchill


"The Jew is that sacred being who has brought down from heaven the everlasting fire, and has illumined with it the entire world. He is the religious source, spring, and fountain out of which all the rest of the peoples have drawn their beliefs and their religions."

• Leo Tolstoy
"It was in vain that we locked them up for several hundred years behind the walls of the Ghetto. No sooner were their prison gates unbarred than they easily caught up with us, even on those paths which we opened up without their aid."

•A. A. Leroy Beaulieu, French publicist, 1842

"The Jew gave us the Outside and the Inside - our outlook and our inner life. We can hardly get up in the morning or cross the street without being Jewish. We dream Jewish dreams and hope Jewish hopes. Most of our best words, in fact - new, adventure, surprise, unique, individual, person, vocation, time, history, future, freedom, progress, spirit, faith, hope, justice - are the gifts of the Jews."

• Thomas Cahill, Irish Author
"One of the gifts of the Jewish culture to Christianity is that it has taught Christians to think like Jews, and any modern man who has not learned to think as though he were a Jew can hardly be said to have learned to think at all."

• William Rees-Mogg, former Editor-in-Chief for The Times of London and a member of the House of Lords

"It is certain that in certain parts of the world we can see a peculiar people, separated from the other peoples of the world and this is called the Jewish people...

This people is not only of remarkable antiquity but has also lasted for a singular long time... For whereas the people of Greece and Italy, of Sparta, Athens and Rome and others who came so much later have perished so long ago, these still exist, despite the efforts of so many powerful kings who have tried a hundred times to wipe them out, as their historians testify, and as can easily be judged by the natural order of things over such a long spell of years. They have always been preserved, however, and their preservation was foretold... My encounter with this people amazes me..."

• Blaise Pascal, French Mathematician

"The Jewish vision became the prototype for many similar grand designs for humanity, both divine and man made The Jews, therefore, stand at the center of the perennial attempt to give human life the dignity of a purpose."

• Paul Johnson, American Historian

"As long as the world lasts, all who want to make progress in righteousness will come to Israel for inspiration as to the people who had the sense for righteousness most glowing and strongest."

• Matthew Arnold, British poet and critic
"Indeed it is difficult for all other nations of the world to live in the presence of the Jews. It is irritating and most uncomfortable. The Jews embarrass the world as they have done things which are beyond the imaginable. They have become moral strangers since the day their forefather, Abraham, introduced the world to high ethical standards and to the fear of Heaven. They brought the world the Ten Commandments, which many nations prefer to defy. They violated the rules of history by staying alive, totally at odds with common sense and historical evidence. They outlived all their former enemies, including vast empires such as the Romans and the Greeks. They angered the world with their return to their homeland after 2000 years of exile and after the murder of six million of their brothers and sisters.

They aggravated mankind by building, in the wink of an eye, a democratic State which others were not able to create in even hundreds of years. They built living monuments such as the duty to be holy and the privilege to serve one's fellow men.

They had their hands in every human progressive endeavor, whether in science, medicine, psychology or any other discipline, while totally out of proportion to their actual numbers. They gave the world the Bible and even their "savior."

Jews taught the world not to accept the world as it is, but to transform it, yet only a few nations wanted to listen. Moreover, the Jews introduced the world to one God, yet only a minority wanted to draw the moral consequences. So the nations of the world realize that they would have been lost without the Jews...

And while their subconscious tries to remind them of how much of Western civilization is framed in terms of concepts first articulated by the Jews, they do anything to suppress it.

They deny that Jews remind them of a higher purpose of life and the need to be honorable, and do anything to escape its consequences. It is simply too much to handle for them, too embarrassing to admit, and above all, too difficult to live by.

So the nations of the world decided once again to go out of 'their' way in order to find a stick to hit the Jews. The goal: to prove that Jews are as immoral and guilty of massacre and genocide as some of they themselves are.

All this in order to hide and justify their own failure to even protest when six million Jews were brought to the slaughterhouses of Auschwitz and Dachau; so as to wipe out the moral conscience of which the Jews remind them, and they found a stick.

Nothing could be more gratifying for them than to find the Jews in a struggle with another people (who are completely terrorized by their own leaders) against whom the Jews, against their best wishes, have to defend themselves in order to survive. With great satisfaction, the world allows and initiates the rewriting of history so as to fuel the rage of yet another people against the Jews. This in spite of the fact that the nations understand very well that peace between the parties could have come a long time ago, if only the Jews would have had a fair chance. Instead, they happily jumped on the wagon of hate so as to justify their jealousy of the Jews and their incompetence to deal with their own moral issues.

When Jews look at the bizarre play taking place in The Hague, they can only smile as this artificial game once more proves how the world paradoxically admits the Jews uniqueness. It is in their need to undermine the Jews that they actually raise them.

The study of history of Europe during the past centuries teaches us one uniform lesson: That the nations which received and in any way dealt fairly and mercifully with the Jew have prospered; and that the nations that have tortured and oppressed them have written out their own curse."

• Olive Schreiner, South African novelist and social activist


"If there is any honor in all the world that I should like, it would be to be an honorary Jewish citizen."

• A.L Rowse, authority on Shakespeare

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Re: Why are many of the posts anti Semitic on this Veterans

Postby gmg » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:44 am


msdking, I'm not sure I am understanding your reference to "this Veterans List" in the topic/thread title, but let me try and offer an explanation, if you are referring to what you see over on our News Side. And using the vocabulary "News Side" may not actually be such a good choice of words. There is a lot of opinion posted over there more in the sense of editorials.

Anyway, if your reference to an anti-Semitic slant is because of what you are reading over there on the News Side / Journal Side, then I must admit you are correct. There does seem to be a lot of negativity posted that frequently targets the folks that are of the Jewish faith.

I have posted over there from time-to-time that I felt there was racism seeping through the cracks of opinion pieces posted and comments posted, but I have been frequently informed that it is Zionism that is the target of criticism, not the regular folks of Jewish faith or culture, or whatever. I can't really say as I believe that, but what I think doesn't have much impact over there. Now, you may wonder about that, because I seem to be the administrator here, which I am.

You see, the forum -- this place where you posted and I'm answering -- is supposed to be a separate entity within the Veterans Today Network. I mean separate from the News Side / Journal Side / Editorial Side.

You see, those folks over there came along after John and myself and I am under the impression that John is doing a hands-off style as of this year. I mean, hands off the News Side. I'm supposed to have freedom to do about whatever I think is correct over here on the forum and we aren't so busy and I've been fine with a lack of traffic. We were busier a few years or so ago before things took such a strange twist over on the News Side, but we had a lot of folks sending me PMs here on the forum asking me why that was happening over there and I don't really have a good answer, except it a group of folks over there that have gained control and are primarily interested in pushing the agenda that everything is the fault of folks I guess they don't like. I'm afraid I don't have a lot of time to worry too much about them, except that I do feel sorry for folks that live their lives distrusting so many people. Must be hard to live a life where you don't have any loyalties. I mean, you can't be loyal to a cause unless you trust someone and from what I read over there those folks don't trust anybody. Anyway, it's not really any of my business how they want to live and who they do or don't want to trust. Just makes me feel sad when I do have the time to think deeply about them.

Of course, your post/topic, msdking, might draw some folks to our part of the Network and there may be some lively debate coming up, but I'll make one thing right clear right now -- we aren't having any of the profanity here on the forum that is allowed over there on the News Side. We are also not going to be having folks insulting each other during debates. I don't go for that style. No reason for insults and profanity to get a point across.

I'm not sure if this helps you to understand what's going on around here on Veterans Today, but I'm always around to answer questions and I suppose I may have a few opinions to toss in from time-to-time.

By the way, those are some mighty interesting quotes you posted there, msdking.

One more thing, welcome to the forum!

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Re: Why are many of the posts anti Semitic on this Veterans

Postby perfumeriver » Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:52 pm

The moderator should remove this post and ban this member.

There is no need for this here. There are other forums for such material.

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Re: Why are many of the posts anti Semitic on this Veterans

Postby gmg » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:37 pm


As this forum is part of the Veterans Today Network and the News Side is what I think is being referred to by the OP, I disagree.

If there is something on the News Side that folks want to discuss here, that's perfectly fine with the management.

It cannot be denied that there is a lot of bashing of Israel and pro-Israel folks going on over on the News Side and there have been writers over there that requested negative opinions be posted and discussed here on the forum, and that seems to be what the OP did. Although, some clarification by the OP to cover some points I made in my response might have been a good thing.

But I might be misunderstanding something. For example, perfumeriver, the "such material" means what material?

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